C&C: DS

Today, we had a conversation with 3 former Westwood employees. They work for EA now. So, let’s start from the beginning. We wanted to know if there was any Command & Conquer game in development for the Nintendo DS. So we contacted EA etc., and finally we came in contact with these 3 employees. You know how it goes… So, we first asked them if they know anything about a Command & Conquer game for the Nintendo DS. They told us they know it’s in development. After that, we asked them how they know this. We were told that they were also busy developing this game, with a large team. The team only has former Westwood developers in it, so the game will very much be like the old C&C’s how we know them from history. They think the game will be ready in 2006. It’s not announced yet, because Nintendo wants it to be a surprise. They think the game will be announced by the end of this year. As soon as the Nintendo DS was announced by Nintendo, the former Westwood employees had plans to develop a C&C game on the system. They think the system is perfectly suited for such type of games. The game will take advantage of the touch screen and the built in microphone of the DS. Also it will use the Nintendo WiFi Connection, so that means the game will be online! That’s really great news. Command & Conquer: DS, it’s development name, will have many great features: “We tried to grab all the best parts of every C&C game together and put it in this game. You’ll also have a improved map-editor and many more, which is still a little surprise”, he said. The last thing we can say is that we are really looking forward to this, we hope so, fantastic game, and that it will write history in the time-line of C&C games. We also think it’s really great to hear that is will be a classic C&C game again. That can only be good news! And also the best news is that it will go online so you can play all over the world against anybody in the world!

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Sorry, but the blogging software is crap. 3rd try to do this alright.

'knew who you were and i knew you were fake, im pretty sure you are the guy im thinking of.'
So my question is: Did you? Or in my native language: Is dat zo?
Who do you think I am? I'd like to know if you're right :)

Holograms

Revolution-rumors had a pretty interesting mail right here (click show original article). It's about holograms and stuff. The story sounds pretty plausible. Especially when I saw this NASA site. A Japanese developer invested 300,000 dollars into this project. Coincidence? I think not.

Holograms on controllers would be awesome. Imagine a map like in metroid prime, as a hologram on your controller. Would be awesome :) . The question is if, or how, you could interact with the hologram. I don't know if this technology is around there.
Another question is if the holograms won't use too much power. You wouldn't want to use holograms if the battery runs out within 2 hours.

Sow how plausible is the story? It would be pretty easy to fake, I guess. Same thing on the interview with SeriousGamer. Evey damn thing around could be fake. I don't believe however that a N-game participant/marketing guy would reveal that he's in to anyone.

Another mail Rev Rumors got was about Nintendo ON and haptic feedback. The haptic feedback thing sounded pretty good, with an example of you hanging on a balcony MGS style, and you could feel the heart beat and the cold of the bar. It's a shame he began about Nintendo ON and transforming your house into a level. You'd be stuck within the room for hours, especially when you have just a little house. That's even when presuming the ON thing is real. That guy is a fake, I guess. Still believe in haptic feedback, though.

This poster? Fake. Or a participant in the N-game which wants to leave some hints. Bweh, can't trust anyone. The first 2 seem plausible though. After those they came popping up again and again. The first 2 just seem better than the rest. March 2006 as a release and August 2005 as the unveiling. The press came up with a late 2006 release for no reason anyway.

Conclusion:
-Holograms - maybe, don't know yet
-SeriousGamer - Fake, in my opinion. Please prove me otherwise
-Haptic - VERY plausible
-March 2006 release? - pretty damn plausible

This is the beginning...

In the past few months a lot of blogs started popping up. Many claimed to be an insider, and many believed them. I wanted to see exactly how easyit would be to fool people. Together with a mate I started this blog and made up some information about the Revolution. Please don't stop reading and start posting 'omg ass!' right now.

The only way to make you know things are easy to make up and some logs are totally fake, was to do it like this. It was pretty weird hearing people say 'I find Nin-Sider to be much more believable than most of the other "insiders"', but appareantly, you only need good writing skills and some imagination...

Ask yourself this question: Why would an insider make a blog at blogspot and spill the beans? Someone who works on Nintendo wouldn't do that, because he loves his company. And, of course, there are NDA's. If you break one in this case, you've got to pay A LOT of money. Nobody would risk that.

I'm fake, but however, I think I'm pretty close. Just by thinking in a logical way, you can get close to what the Revolution will be like. The Nintendo ON thing is fake, for sure. 100%. The Revolution will get gyration sensors, and the patent with the GBA might still be a clue. Just check it out.

Some other blogs are also pretty fake. It's kind of weird that people tend to believe someone if he says a log is fake, when he's an insider himself. How would he know an other guy is also blogging?
The case of revdeveloper (Team Beta), however, is fake. Why would Super Smash Bros. be made by several teams? It's not logical. You have to be in contact with eachother and not glue all loose parts together afterwards. Also, as said in one of my posts, these lines bothered me:

-Nintendo's Next-Gen console WILL be the most powerful console of all time.
-Downloadable 1st party games are FREE.
-Super Smash Bros: Fire will ship with the Revolution as a BONUS.

Sure. SSB, one of the most profitable franchises, will be entirely free... The first point isn't the case. My guess is PS3 will be more powerful. And about the free 1st party games; fake. Iwata already stated that.

And another thing which was quite intruiging; the posters. I think the first one is plausible, but the rest... Posters keep popping up every day now... My guess is people now make fakes and try to get some fame.

So, guys. Let this be a lesson to all of you! Don't instantly believe a guy who pretends to be an insider... If you have any questions, maybe regarding the Revolution itself, please ask them. I'm not any less reliable now. I understand it, however, if nobody replies on this post and never comes back around here. I might me posting some things around here though.

Ah, by the way, some really great sites regarding the Revo Rumors and stuff are
http://revolutionrumors.blogspot.com/ - check this out and you know everything that happened last day
http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/ - has is own view on the Revolution, does some nice things.

Answers again.

Will update this post a bit, I guess.

Shade, interesting stuff about the innovatek cooling system. I haven't heard much about it, but as far as I can tell, this could very well be in it. I think it's in. Don't mark these words though ;)
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Husky217 said...

Finally, a sensible "insider"! i loved reading all your posts, and thought I would try to pry some good info out of you :-) Thanks!

Will the revolution use stereographic 3D graphics? It sounded like you hinted at this in one of your posts. If so, what hardware (special glasses for example) will be used?

Will the revolution use a visor? If so, will it detect motion? I'm sure the NintendoOn thing is fake, but I liked the idea of the visor. The standing and moving your feet to move around looked horrible on the other hand.

Will there be a new Kid Icarus game for the Revolution? If so, PLEASE give out ALL the info you can about it :-)

If Nintendo doesn't reveal the "revolution" until Sony and Microsoft finalize their consoles, would they still be able to steal the "revolution"? Or will it be too late by then? I'm not sure if their console would be able to receive any possible new types of input.

Can't/Won't tell you anything about the stereoscopic stuff ;) Won't be a visor though. Kid Icarus was already confirmed in one interview somewhere, so yes, that one is in the works. Hate to tell you, but don't know to much about it. Only heard it will be good ;)
When the Revolution is revealed, there won't be any chance of Sony or Microsoft to imitate the idea. Microsoft will be too late either way, while the X360 is released or will shortly be released at the unveiling. Sony hasn't got the patents/partners/technology to implement it in time. So unless some insider leaks all the info within two months, they won't steal it ;)

NOALink said...

Is there anything to gain by looking at patent filing, or are all of those reports red herrings?

Also, it would be interesting if the 512 MB flash memory was compatable with the DS (as a cart) and you could continue your games on that system...

I guess your not really an NOA guy ;) Well, there was that patent for some sort of gyration sensors in a 3d-world. However, this was pictured with a GBA and gamecube. But question yourself, is there a game which uses this? 3d movement through gyration control? Nope. Maybe the GBA/Cube set up is just used to show how it works. Think about it.

What would be interesting is if you could send your savegame of Super Mario Bros. 3 (SMB3), plus SMB3 itself (presuming you can save, unlike the original NES version) to your DS. You play a while and after that, you send your save state back to the revolution, where it will be saved. Would be cool and handy for households with one TV. Your parents want to see something? No problem, upload it to your DS and game on.
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Anonymous said...

ok 1st off thx for answering all my questions, and 2nd do u have any idea when all this stuff about the revolution will officially be revealed?

Should be around Septembre. Somewhere near the end of the year anyway.
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Anonymous said...

Hello I would just like to ask wether Nintendo have secured any exclusive third party games, or new second parties? Also can you comment on the statement made by Square Enix which said that the Revolution is completely new platform, not a handheld or a home console.

Where did they say that? The Revolution will be a home console. Otherwise Nintendo would have made a Revolution AND a home console. However, SE might be relating to the revolutionairy part. Which me seem 'completely new'. Third party support is going to be better than now on gamecube.
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czajnik said...

Hi, could you please confirm or deny the usage of any kind of virtual reality helmet? I mean something close to what was in the ON video.

It's not going to be like in the Nintendo ON vid.
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Anonymous said...

ok so the revoluton won't have HD and doesn't need it, so why will the revoultion be able to hook up to ur computer screen is there ne special reason to this at all?

You know, television screens don't differ too much with computer screens. Let's just say this technique can be showed on both...
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Regnil of the sky said...

So... branching off on your answer to R-UNITs question about HD where you said that it wouldn't really be needed to display the Revolutions graphics and to "think outside the box", are you hinting that the revolution won't be displayed on a TV screen but may be, say, projected onto a wall or seen through some kind of virtual reality device as seen in the ON video? Thanks.

Nah, that's the complete other side. People tend to believe this ON video, but I can assure you it won't be like that. Who would want that anyway? Walking through your own house every time blasting metroids? No way!

More answers

Wow, lot of questions coming in. I'll try to answer them.

Grum said...

Slightly offtopic here but who do you believe the "Deeper Throat" person to be?

Just a kid messing around.
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Alexander said...

Do you know if there will be a headset or a keyboard for online playing? Or will there be a special way to type in letters quickly? You know, it takes a lot of time to write a letter in animal crossing, so i think chatting won't be possible.

A microphone will be available, one of the last decisions is if it will be in the controller or not. My guess is it will be in. For text chat you could use your DS. You could also 'aim' for letters with the controller (gyration), but I don't know if that will be in. Might be some issues with that one.
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shade said...

about the cooling technology.. will it be from innovatek?
someone said he saw that information on the official E3 page that an innovatek representative spilled the beans about that.

Hmmm, sorry, I really don't know. Can you give me some more information about the technology used?
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R-UNIT said...

Sorry, me again. Do you know if any type of screen will be on the controller? Also, have you heard about Nintendo changing it's stance on HD? IS there a chance for high-def gaming on Revolution, or is it already set in stone?

There will be some sort of 'screen' on the controller. It won't be a screen as on a DS... It will be interactive though, and with haptic feedback, for sure.
And about HD... Well, I don't care really. HD won't be needed for the Revolutions graphics, that's all I can say... 'think outside the box'.
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MSG said...

Thx for your answer.

1. So you think the poster is real? But theres standing March 2006? On which wall would Nintendo hang a poster wheres standing "March 2006"? Dont sounds possible for me.
2. Will the "Revolution" in the Controller be something "easy"? So will it be similar to the old controller setting or somethint total new?

The first poster is real. I guess this one will be printed in magazines, around Xbox launch. Why should March 2006 be a problem? Gamers will know what it's about if they see the Revo contours and the word 'revolution' in blue...
The controller will be easy, of course. All access gaming is possible because of the easy way of controlling games. It will be new, but think about it as the analog stick, which was new and easy to use.
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Anonymous said...

u said deeper throat was a fake

what do u think about seriousgamer007? is there ne truth behind ne of this claims?

I haven't been following his rumours. His name is enough to disbelieve him.
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Mattias said...

In an estimate, can you give a figure of how much cheaper the Nintendo Revolution will be compared to the PS3 or the XBox360?

I don't know the prices of PS3 and Xbox360, but Revolution will be the cheapest of the three, in a price range from 200-250 dollars.
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Anonymous said...

also what do u think about team beta?

http://www.revdeveloper.blogspot.com/

and i think that someone at the nsider forums said that out of all the controler mock ups out there one of them was actually a leak of the real thing? can u approve this?

Revdeveloper is fake. People, please, read the stuff they are saying... Look at these lines:
-Nintendo's Next-Gen console WILL be the most powerful console of all time.
-Downloadable 1st party games are FREE.

There are more things that are fake, but these were made public by Nintendo. It won't be the most powerful console in terms of clockrates and such. The real controller is not 'leaked' yet, but some mock ups are pretty close
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Regnil of the sky said...

Do you know alot about the new smash bros, and if you do could you elaborate on the new features and characters please? thanks.

It's made by 1 team (Not by a couple of teams, as Team beta wants you to believe). I don't know very much about it, but it is going to be awesome. It will make use of most new controller functions. It will be great. You'll have to wait a little longer for more info.
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Regnil of the sky said...

also, what do you think of this n-game being played and, this n-game site in particular: http://inmhs.blogspot.com/

Hmm, the N-game. It's pretty interesting, but some people are seeing hints everywhere. 'O look a cat! It must be a hint to 'feeling' the game!'. Some of the N-game might be true though... ;)
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MR.?? said...

Can you elaborate more on the Capabilities of the Revolution Network Connection? Obviously it is to be quite potent potent in its capabilities to deliver a satsfying expierience but can we expect something that will compete with this generations X-Box live service? Also will the Revolution and the DS connection (we all know there is gonna be one) be utilized more by third party developers? It seemed that the GBA-GC connection was overlooked by many.

The cube-GBA connection wasn't too good. You'd have to buy the cable connecting both, you mostly had to buy both the cube and GBA version of a game, and so forth. The DS connection will be much better, especially because you can download DS demo's via Nintendo's online service. The service will be awesome. It starts up with the latest news and demo's, you can see if friends are online... Stuff like that. I don't know if third parties will use the connectivity. I guess the first party games will feature it a lot more.
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Anonymous said...

Hey Nin-sider I'm just wondering how does the Revolution compare to the PS3 I know you said its defenitely more powerful than 360 but what about the PS3?

It's not 'defenitely more powerful' than 360, but it can surely compete with it. PS3 will be stronger if you look at clockrates, but the Revolution does some things a little different.

Answers

I'll update this post with answers, which answer questions (...), which you can post beneath.
Questions can be asked in the comments underneath this log.

R-UNIT said...

You say that gyration is in the controllers. Is this the main revolutionary aspect, or is it a combination of different features, or is it something completely different?

Also, I've heard that the interface is going to something very special. Can you give any sort of detail on it? It has me rather intrigued.

The Revolutionary part is not the gyration. Can't tell you what it is though. You'll have to wait for Iwata and Reggie to do the big stuff. The controller interface is going to be special, of course it's going to be, all the fuzz is about the controller.
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Regnil of the sky said...

Do you have any idea how much the console or the games will cost

The console will cost around 200-250 dollars, the games will be around the same price as they are now, however, there might be some exceptions for multiplatformgames like EA's games. First party games won't be any more expensive.
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RolloRolf said... When will the Revolution be revealed?

I do not have that information, sorry.
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MSG said...

Hi. So you say you are not Fake but most of the others are? So you cant say where you work or what you are doing. Why should we believe you? And what do you think about Osoko Tanaka? I mean: He is a Fake for sure. And you almost say the same things as aries. Why should you know so much things about the revolution games and all that, like the new Zelda for it?

Of course I can't say where I work. Ever heard of NDA's?
Wether Osoko is legit or not is not the point. The question is if what he says is true. And in some things he's pretty close. The problem is Osoko doesn't really lets loose any information. He just talks and talks... Without any content. So he's most probably fake indeed, or posting some crappy information on purpose. You make the choice here.
Then the question 'Why should we believe you?'. I don't know, honestly. If you don't want to believe me, please don't. And for the last answer; can't tell you, 'for obvious reasons'...
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So, what's up?

It's been a long time since I posted something around here. I have my reasons for the wait, anyway. So, these long logs with minimal Revolution information... Did you care? I guess not.
Any new info wasn't really in there, wasn't it? There were some 'mistakes' in the text, Crystal Chronicles not being a Final Fantasy game for example.

Anyway, some facts, I'll clear some things up for you:
-The poster? It's not a fake, as far as I can tell. Can't tell you wether it's my department or not.
-The follow-up posters? Some of them might be real ;).
-Controller will obviously feature gyration sensors.
-Release will be around Q1 2006.
-A couple of third parties have seen the controller and are enthusiastic about the 'thing'.
-Online will be cool, especially the communication with DS. Xbox Live!... No, not really. Won't be Xbox 360's big thing anymore.
-What about strength? Well, believe it or not; it can compete with the new Xbox, easily. 'Size does not matter'.
-By the way, the 'deeper_throat' guy? He's a fake. Come on people...

I'll maybe see you around soon again. Ask questions if you like.